Progress so far. The rear 'doors' are simply two squares of very thin plastic. Handles will be added later. |
The front plates of the fighting compartment have been added. I figured out a way of getting that bend close to the embrasure: scoring about 2mm parallel to the edge and using a rat-nose pair of pliers to snap the edge around. Three of the four attempts were successful; the fourth I actually snapped the thing off. As it was straight, I just glued it back the way I wanted it. Gaps I tried filling with Green Stuff, and I'm here to tell you that damned gunk is a beggar to work with. How people achieve what they do with it I can't imagine.
Gun shield attached to the hull decking, not the gun, for the sake of strength. |
The curved piece (gun shield?) immediately behind the front plate I glued direct to the hull, rather than to the gun (which I think ought to have been done). I was rather puzzled how to make these, but solved it by using a plastic bottle that once held floor cleaner. I wanted a thickish soft plastic for this piece. It took several goes to get the dimensions more or less right, and the thing still required a little extra bending, but the result was satisfactory.
What to do about the interior of the fighting compartment? The ESCI model had a couple of boxes close by the rear, and pair of seats beside the gun breech. I'm very tempted to leave them out, partly because the ESCI seats don't look right anyway, but also to reserve the space for the gun crew.
Those front hatches haven't worked out so well... |
A glance at the deck in front of the fighting compartment discloses a pair of hatches. I wince each time I look at this. Having no other source of plastic discs the appropriate size, I tried cutting the circles from very thin plastic sheet. This was not very successful, the less so when I was stupid enough to glue them on anyway.
As Hoffnung once remarked: 'I must have lost my presence of mind!' Since taking these pictures, I have found that the judicious application of black marker pen effectively disguises the irregularities of shape. There is reason, then, to hope a clever paint job will have the same effect. Otherwise, if I do find something more appropriate, they'll have to be placed overall, as I'm never going to be able to get those botched hatches off again.
I wondered too how I was going to do the louvres at the sides of the fighting compartment (I suppose they are louvres). Just painting them on I could not see as a satisfactory solution. As anything more elaborate seemed to me fiddly and hard, I just attached an appropriate area of thin plastic card. The pencil lines serve as painting guides/aides memoire for when the finishing touches are added to the vehicle.
To the basic ESCI guns, I added the cheeks (?) with holes to accommodate the guns' trunnions; the hydraulic elevating gear, and behind the cheeks, the wheels, handles and sighting gear in a very simplified form. The result isn't hugely accurate upon close examination, but the overall dimensions are reasonably close.
I wasn't especially consistent here, trying out different materials for each. The right hand side handle is a bit of staple for one gun, a two short pieces of plastic glued (with an infinitude of trouble) at right angles on the other. Similar sorts of differences appear on the other side. The final painting will disguise these disparities.
The following pictures show what the vehicles will look like once the guns have been properly mounted. This I will not do until the guns and the interior of the fighting compartment at least have been undercoated.
Except for those bally hatches (What was I thinking??) These vehicles aren't looking too bad... |
Three Hummels in battery. However, one of the scratchbuilds is destined for the Army of Evil Uncle Brian (A Fist Full of Plastic), who supplied the kit bits you see in these pictures. In Command Decision game terms, I now have enough Hummels (two) for as many Self Propelled artillery battalions. But not enough Wespes (three). However, I do have a Wespe hull, sans (if memory serves) gun. Now: does this become my fourth Wespe, or does it remain gunless as an ammunition resupply vehicle. Decisions, decisions...
Three Hummels in battery. One of the new fellows will end up looking like the chappy in the middle. The other? Don't know yet. |
that is all well and good I wish I had your skill and list of materials, I did alter my 1/76 scale M113 fire support vehichle (yet to post as it is just done). I decided that a I hoped to get some vulcan 20mm air defence guns mounted on the M113 in 1/72 that the fire support would look too small so I have turned into a rather odd but imposing self propelled gun! I have yet to come up with a back story as to why Oronegro made the.
ReplyDeleteanyway your work is great, don't know if I can advise you on the Wespe... guns or ammo carrier??? well you can never have enough big guns... oh yeah thats the back up story I'll use for the Oronegrean production. great work cannot wait to see them painted
Truly awesome work Ion, actually think they look great in white. Perhaps a winter version?
ReplyDeleteThe concept and application is spot on.
Ambitious project and very impressive work. I hate green stuff too, never been able to work with it. FWIW I use Mr White Putty for all my filling jobs.
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I might be able to hook you up with another Esci Wespe kit.
ReplyDeleteFor some reason this fetched up on the Spam list, and I've just found it. I'm interested!
DeleteThank you for your encouragement, Paul. I feel the need for it!
ReplyDeleteI hadn't thought of a winter livery for the vehicle. It's an attractive idea, but I think I'll stay with the yellow and green with red/brown splotches that is the feature of most of my German/Orotinian army...
Cheers,
Ion
vuu... nice project..I'm following...
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Thanks Erntly... I enjoy your blogspot as well.
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Very clever work, I once made a cardboard A7V WW1 tank but these are in a different league.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to seeing them finished.
I'm looking forward to that, too! There's just this - draws breath through teeth - bit in between now and then that we have to go through. To be honest, I don't much like modelling (you should hear the language that punctuates the process... m'mmm maybe not... At any rate, if I enjoyed it more, I'd do more of it). But sometimes I do like the end product. That makes the process (just) worthwhile. Having tried sheet plastic, I think I still prefer cardboard!
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ReplyDeleteReally ambitious project and impressive work on these. Further to your remarks on Green Stuff, I have never enjoyed using it and now use Mr White Putty for this type of job. Anyway, look forward to seeing these finished.
Cheers, Dave
When I looked up Green Stuff on the internet to get a description and how to work it, I saw references to this White Putty. I recall commenting to someone about the possibility of using Builders' Fill, and I'm beginning to think it might be worth the experiment. That stuff is reasonably easy to work with before it goes off, though that can happen within half a minute even with a very small amount of hardener. I'll have to look into the White Putty option.
ReplyDeleteMind you, my fridge has fairly hefty quantities of Yellow and Blue with which to make the Green Stuff epoxy. I guess I'll have to learn how to work it...
Meanwhile, I've undercoated the vehicles, and will add on a few bits and pieces before beginning painting proper. Lost most of today owing to a migraine - my med didn't take. Turned out we had a Black Nor'wester - migraine weather.
Cheers,
Ion
Not sure if I'd recommend the Builders' route. Have a look here for a quick example of how easy Mr White Putty is to work with straight from the tube.
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Cheers, Dave
At least it's not a two-part thing like builder's fill or Green Stuff. By the look, it doesn't shrink (much?) either.
DeleteI guess I'll have to investigate this White putty a bit more closely!
Thanks DaveM
Ion
No worries Ion. I've not really had problems with it shrinking a large amount but I do usually overfill a bit and then rub it back as it sands very easily with, for example, a bit fine wet and dry (p400). If you need to use really big "gobs" of it then its best to build it up in a couple of applications and let it cure properly (say 24 hours) in between.
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